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Shanksville is a famous spot now. It's about 15 miles from here. We just took a trip up there this month to pay hommage, say prayers for the country and meet the President. The latter didn't work out tho. Those Somerset coal-miners were also close. Mary, I'm sorry you had to lose a brother too Your son must be a fine strong man.

I have been pulled over by them Pa. State Po-licemen. They are a rare breed indeed! I see that the military hasn't changed much. Still shippin' 'im here and there. You son is in my prayers I came here two or three years ago and originally posted Bedford Pa. I wasn't going to do that this time. I was looking for a way to reveal the truth, Mary gave to to me Diamond Lil already knew all this I told her.

The Hawks referred to Robbie as Barnacle Man because he was always by Dylan's side and they had become very close Dylan's Album) is mentioned here from time to time and I always remember the 8 track of this recording as simply terrible even though others here seem to like it Here's Dylan Interview takes place in Dylan's room at the Chateau Champlain hotel in Montreal Q: You haven't done any from Self-Portrait so far.

A: I didn't live with those songs for too long. Those were just scraped together. Q: To, say, make a point or pay tribute to songwriters you liked? What about the Dylan album? I've heard the songs were mostly outtakes from the Self-Portrait sessions. A: They were just not to be used. I thought it was well understood. They were just to warm up for a tune. Q: The tour seemed to get looser as it got to Canada. There was even mention of you on a station in Toronto that more or less claimed you as a Canadian citizen - or at least a man from the north country of the U.

It's a certain flair. And this is where I come from, this kind of setting - lakes and boats and bridges A: I don't know who I played. I tried to play whoever it was in the story, but I guess it's a known fact that there was nobody in that story that was the character I played I have a question concerning the Incredible String Band for anyone here who might be familiar with their discography.

I recently got a CD copy of the "5, Spirits" and I love it. Previously my only purchase was the "Relics" comp which I got years ago. Where do I go from here. Whats the next best complete album that they made.

Is the guy that plays the ship's musician actually the dude from ISB. He sure looks and sounds like him. Any help appreciated.

Thanks, Rich. Subject: Rosalind Rosalind, I read with interest your post about your brother. It is so touching. I also lost a brotherwho also introduced me to The Band, but not that way. Scott was killed on his motorcyle in But, I have a son who is a US Marine. Jay graduated from Parris Island last February. By coincidence, he also is a rifleman, is stationed at Camp LeJuene in NC, and as we speak is at Camp Pendelton in California repelling from mountains.

I surely hope he doesn't have to go to Iraq, or Afghanistan. I have friends who ask me all the time if I am extremely worried about him. Of course, the answer is yes. But, what his chosen profession will be after the Marines is just as worrisome.

He is going to the State Police Academy. I think I would rather have him in the Marines than as a State Policeman. So sorry about your brother and thanks for sharing.

To the contrary, it was a great way to move the GB in a more palatable direction. Some contributors Train Of Love Steve Earle Hardin Wouldn't Run Give My Love To Rose Folsom Prison Blues Keb Mo' At the end of the song Johnny calls out Bob mostly hums throughout song He does a better job on "Blue Yodel" Carl Perkins on guitar?

Rivers' original keyboard guy, Larry Knectel turns up on some of the tracks, as does Herb Pederson. I guess Mickey was too busy to play drums. Another interesting new live release is a double disc set from some mids Steve Miller performances for the King Biscuit Flower Hour.

Since this is an official release from the radio show itself, I hope this means that an official release of material by The Band might surface including tracks not in circulation yet. It's funny that all the talk here about western movies had me in the right mood for a song called "Sergio Leone" on the surprisingly strong new album by Jackson Browne.

Another powerful political song on the disc has some cowpoke imagery as well: "Out beyond the ethernet the spectrum spreads DC to daylight, the cowboy mogul rides. Never mind where the gold for all this glory's gonna come from; get along little dogies, it's coming out of your hides Biffalo Bull: The initials of the Judge The guitarist was pretty good For those who don't understand I just recently realized who Mickey Jones is also. I was watching "National Lampoon's Vacation" and I always remembered the part where the mechanic with that strange beard was supposed to fix the Griswold car, and he extorted all of Clark Griswold's Chevy Chase money.

And the car was never fixed anyway. While reading the credits to the movie I noticed the name Mickey Jones and I looked him up on the Internet Movie Database because I knew I had seen him in other movies. It was there that I found out that not only was he the corrupt mechanic in the movie, but he was also the Mickey Jones who toured with Dylan and the Hawks on that infamous electric tour. That surprised me because he didn't really look like a musician.

I guess it's a small world. I think it's great that Mickey is releasing a video of that tour. Forgot the pilot's punchline: 'But don't worry. If you're lucky, he'll have pulled your head off first and you won't feel a thing.

The guy was indeed the perfect drummer for the tour. Great guy. Great drummer. And he got paid more than Robbie. The pilot had a large gun which he carried ashore when we landed, which I thought was frontier theatrics.

Then he pointed out the bear tracks, which I also thought was theatrics. They carry an ominously large and unconcealable weapon. Then again, you only have to drive into the New Forest 20 miles from here to be 20 minutes away from police protection, let alone rural Wales or Scotland. No bears though. And in all those areas they manage to survive with the protection of a couple of large dogs.

In the end, the comparative statistics on gun-related deaths are evidence enough. The pilot also had a bear spray and I remember the advice. But that might make it angry. Subject: wow!! I always reconized him with the weirdest looking beard I have ever seen and he always seemed to show up in movies and I think I can remember being surprized when I heard that that guy used to be in a band with Kenny Rodgers I guess you do learn something new everyday!!!

Thanks again. By checking the GB before sleeping, i found that my post talking about Dylan is out-of-context and almost ridiculous, while things turned around US civil war and other possible wars.

I want to amend myself by adding a modest post to the subject. In my mother country, a slightly different civil war began 10 years ago, persons already killed, fear is frozen, life goes on, and the grateful death can strike at any moment. Grant is as respected as Lee, names like Gettysburg, Appomatox, Franklin, breathe the glory, and make you dream. All the posts on the topics are moving and suggest the respect to their authors, I greet them all with a special mention to Rosalind, of course.

John Cass, that is the same guy. I was led to his website a few months ago, I think it was through a guestbook thread, and was amazed at how familiar he was.

We have all seen him in countless movies and commercials, a Band connection right under our noses! John Cass, You've got the right guy. Check out his link above. Have not heard it yet, but I gather it may be somewhat avant-guarde.

Subject: Mickey Jones This might be a dumb question. And thank each and everyone of you. I was only eleven years old when it happened so the only real pain I felt came thru my mother's tears.

I did tear myself open a bit to write it down tho. The words from you all came as a soothing salve to close it back up. There are good souls in this place. We have unsung Heros who died in America also that shall never be forgotten. Brave and fearless men and women who have died on streets fighting crime who have given their lives to fight fires.

We have people that have fought their own civil wars and have lost the battle. Our beloved Richard Manuel for instance. I saw Art Linkleter on the Larry King show not too long ago. When asked about "How he coped with the loss of his daughter? The pain never really leaves I have been listening to "Sailing to Philadelphia" all morning. What a great record! Do you know if there are any pictures or specs of that early amp?

I was thinking of trying to build a replica. Any information that anyone has on this would be greatly appreciated. Subject: Big Pink Just paid my respects to big pink. I'm happy to report that it still looks the same! Beautiful country! Subject: and to add one more thing Although I am a carnivore and defend the killing of an animal if it is for the providing of food and done humanely, I cannot understand the hunting mentality. I feel intense guilt if I accidently run over a squirrel; I could not sleep at night if I ever shot a deer or bear, etc.

If the pleasure is from the hunt and pursuit, then take a picture of the animal rather than shooting the poor thing. Subject: Guns Peter: The gun issue is a little different in countries with vast rural areas like the U.

As I said yesterday, I am not a gun owner and have no intention of ever being one. I think they give a false sense of security, are more likely to be used against the owner in the event of a house break-in, and tend to be stolen and used in violent crimes. However, when traveling in the far West of the U. If these people encounter a criminal or attacker, the local police are FAR off, and if I was forced to live under such conditions probably would acquire a gun for protection under such extremes.

I do not however, see any excuse for assault weapons, cop-killer bullets, etc. Jenny- kids and guns. We started getting demands for pink hair ribbons around the same time.

Anyway, my third kid loved toy guns. So did his friends. Within minutes there were tears. This is not a parable about real guns though it looks like one. The Washington wall is extremely moving, even for us non-Americans. For those left behind, there are many wounds that will never heal. Instead of uttering partisan rhetoric, the politicians presently in Washington should visit that wall and view the names in respectful silence. From that house south down the hill--on both sides of Rt.

Whatever they say about the second bloodiest day, Franklin was in fact the largest single attack of the war. Some 20, Confederates lined up in a huge arc south of town and attacked the Federal entrenchments. Most of the battlefield is gone now--a Pizza Hut stands where Irish-born General Pat Cleburne died, but if you take 31 south towards the Winstead Hills, there's a nice park that explains the battle.

Even more instructive, when I was in Nashville a few weeks ago, I checked out that fine city's Civil War sites. In any number of places you can experience first hand the brutal sacrifice the country made to figure out exactly what the Constitution meant.

Has everyone heard about this release?! I'm pretty excited about it. They are accepting orders now for dvd and vhs for October 1 release! I simply stated that my preference would be to have a President with a solid understanding of our military. In the glaring light of this point in time, standing where we are now standing as a nation, I feel it has become more important than ever. Once again, one man's opinion. Nothing more.

JTull listed many past Presidents who lacked military experience yet led with great success. I would argue that most of them succeeded in times and under circumstances that could never be even remotely equated to the challenges of these times. You are certainly on the mark with your observation concerning those leaders who bring specific experience to their jobs yet remain ineffective. There's no doubt it happens with regularity. My point is that I would always take my chances on the experienced AND qualified.

Your question concerning only musicians being qualified to criticize music, etc. Again, I respect your opinion and your right to disagree with mine but please don't take an opinion I stated on one matter and attempt to spread it all over other topics of discussion we share here. That sort of hyperbolic distortion only minimizes the valid points you did make. Respectfully posted. Sorry Stevie and gang I meant I'm not a morning person Dylan's SARA Real Robert Zimmerman Apparently it was another six months In another book on Dylan For the first listening, i enjoyed many tracks and i rejected instinctively 'Sara'.

I felt it as a kind of 'Neil-Youngized' Dylan's song. The rule didn't apply only to this album, but to any other existing song. And then, It happened something almost incredible, I have listened during four years, between andexclusively to 'Sara', several times a day. I was feeling it in my flesh and in my soul. No one believes me when i tell that, or someone who believes me doubts of my psychlogical health.

An objective reason is maybe, there were no interesting new creation during the years Now the beach is deserted excepted some kelp And a piece of an old ship that lies on the shore You've always responded when i needed your help You gave me a map and a key to your door Sara, Sara, glamorous nymph with an arrow and bow.

Sara, Sara, don't ever leave me, don't ever go. Bayou Sam: I've posted before the reasons of my name. It's a song of Kansas which i used to sing with my band during many years once again. A novel, a song or a poem is refered to by the first words of the text. Since my real name is widely shared here, my friends called me EN a long time ago to make the distinction. Subject: vietnam dear roz. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience.

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